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		<title>Analysis of the Fitna movie verses</title>
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		<category><![CDATA[Analysis of Fitna The Movie verses]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Surah 4 Verse 56]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fitna is a movie done by Dutch politician Geert Wilders. While he might have not portrayed the verses the right way, he does bring attention to the the threat of Radical Islam, especially for Europeans. For far too long people have buried their heads in the sand, trying to ignore the threat or simply pretend [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitna is a movie done by Dutch politician <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders" target="_blank">Geert Wilders</a>. While he might have not portrayed the verses the right way, he does bring attention to the the threat of Radical Islam, especially for Europeans. For far too long people have buried their heads in the sand, trying to ignore the threat or simply pretend it isn&#8217;t a threat. They thought it&#8217;s only happening in the Middle East and not their home, but sadly, it is happening at home and hopefully the movie will snap them out of their dream world.</p>
<p>Now, here is my analysis of the verses in Fitna by my Qur&#8217;an and my opinion of them in comparison to the movie. The verses I’ve wrote come from my Qur&#8217;an that I received from a Muslim friend (I am agnostic, not Muslim, Christian, etc.) and I feel that they should be addressed to get a better understanding of Islam. While the movie Fitna might take somethings out of context, radical Islam needs to be stopped and the West needs to realize and assert that it will not conform to Islamic laws. I could have made some typos in the verses as I copied them, so post if you feel something is not correct, reply with a comment!</p>
<p>Click <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">Fitna the Movie (English)</a> to see it in English and <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577" target="_blank">Fitna the Movie (Dutch)</a> to see in Dutch.</p>
<p>The Surahs with the “<strong>Comparison:</strong>” in front of them signifies that the verse is one that I am comparing from film with my Koran. Any verses that don’t have &#8220;<strong>Comparison:</strong>&#8221; are there to offer more context or to clarify a point, they are not verses from Fitna. I will also include a video link to when the verse appears in Fitna video.</p>
<p><strong>Comparison: Surah 8 &#8211; Verse 60 &#8211; “The Spoils of War”</strong> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959#0m32s" target="_blank"><strong>[EN Video Link]</strong></a> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577#0m32s" target="_blank"><strong>[NL Video Link]</strong></a> The summary before the Surah states that this was written shortly after <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badr" target="_blank">The Battle of Badr</a> so keep that in mind when it’s dealing with war.</p>
<p><em>Against them make ready<br />
Your strength to the utmost<br />
Of your power, including<br />
Seeds of war, to strike terror<br />
Into (the hearts of) the enemies,<br />
Of Allah and your enemies,<br />
And others besides, whom<br />
Ye may not know, but whom<br />
Allah doth know. Whatever<br />
Ye shall spend in the Cause<br />
Of Allah, shall be repaid<br />
Unto you, and ye shall not<br />
Be treated unjustly</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> At first sight, this verse does seem to match the context Fitna uses to appear violent. But remember, the Bible and other religious text have violent verses in them aswell. Also, this particular verse is in regards to warfare… And the next verse after the above states:</p>
<p><strong>Surah 8 &#8211; Verse 61</strong></p>
<p><em>But if the enemy<br />
Incline towards peace,<br />
Do thou (also) incline<br />
Towards peace, and trust<br />
In Allah: for He is the One<br />
The heareth and knoweth<br />
(All things).</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment</strong>: Pretty obvious meaning. If your enemy wants peace, you should give them peace. Not so violent, really…</p>
<p><strong>Comparison: Surah 4 &#8211; Verse 56 &#8211; “The Women”</strong> <strong><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959#2m51s" target="_blank">[EN Video Link]</a></strong> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577#2m51s" target="_blank"><strong>[NL Video Link]</strong></a><br />
<em><br />
Those who reject<br />
Our Signs, We shall soon<br />
Cast into the Fire;<br />
As often as their skins<br />
Are roasted through,<br />
We shall change them<br />
For fresh skins,<br />
That they may taste<br />
The Penalty: for Allah<br />
Is Exalted in Power, Wise</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> This verse does seem bad, and it is in my opinion. But here’s what it is in regards to: The Muslim community and how to deal with unbelievers. It is talking how to deal with them within the Muslim community. Still violent, yes, but just means if you are a non-believer, don’t go to live in Muslim states. But it is a bad verse and there is no redeeming one after it.</p>
<p><strong>Comparison: Surah 47 &#8211; Verse 4 &#8211; “Muhammad” <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959#5m10s" target="_blank">[EN Video Link]</a> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577#5m11s" target="_blank">[NL Video Link]</a><br />
</strong></p>
<p><em>Therefore, when ye meet<br />
The Unbelievers (in fight),<br />
Smite at their necks;<br />
At length, when ye have<br />
Thoroughly subdued them,<br />
Bind a bond<br />
Firmly (on them): thereafter<br />
(Is the time for) either<br />
Generosity or ransom:<br />
Until the war lays down<br />
Its burdens. Thus (are ye<br />
Commanded): but if it<br />
Had been Allah’s Will<br />
He could certainly have exacted<br />
Retribution from them (Himself);<br />
But (He lets you fight)<br />
In order to test you,<br />
Some with others.<br />
But those who are slain<br />
In the way of Allah–<br />
He will never let<br />
Their deeds be lost.</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> Again, there is no redeeming verse. But if you want to look at it… lightly… this is in regards to warfare. When he is talking about the fight being entered, I don’t know if they mean if the enemy fights you or you declared on them… So I cannot say if it’s talking about in defense, but from the context, no it is not it looks like. “Thoroughly subdued them,” means kill a lot of them, then the “Bind a bond” means you can now take prisoners because their numbers are dwindled. The generosity or ransom part is context of charging money/land/etc for prisoners or generously just letting them go. Still, not a very heart warming verse.</p>
<p><strong>Comparison: Surah 4 &#8211; Verse 89 &#8211; “The Women” <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959#6m51s" target="_blank">[EN Video Link]</a> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577#6m51s" target="_blank">[NL Video Link]</a><br />
</strong></p>
<p><em>They but wish that ye<br />
Should reject Faith,<br />
As they do, and thus be<br />
On the same footing (as they):<br />
So take not allies<br />
From their ranks<br />
Until they flee<br />
In the way of Allah<br />
(From what is forbidden).<br />
But if they turn renegades,<br />
Seize them and slay them<br />
Wherever ye find them;<br />
And (in any case) take<br />
No allies or supporters<br />
From their ranks —</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> This verse is in context of people from the enemy army and deserters of the army of Islam. Really, slaying deserters was not uncommon. Not that bad and it is not talking about unbelievers in general. And there is a better verse afterwards…<br />
<strong><br />
Surah 4 -Verse 90</strong></p>
<p><em>Except those who join<br />
A group between whom<br />
And you there is a treaty<br />
(Of peace), or those who approach<br />
You wish hearts restraining<br />
Them from fighting you<br />
As well as fighting their own<br />
People. If Allah had pleased,<br />
He could have given them<br />
Power over you, and they<br />
Would have fought you:<br />
Therefore if they withdraw<br />
From you but fight you not,<br />
And (instead) send you<br />
(Guarantees of) peace, then Allah<br />
Hath opened no way<br />
For you (to war against them)</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> It is saying if they give up, agree, for Allah does not approve if you keep warring.<br />
<strong><br />
Comparison: Surah 8 &#8211; Verse 39 &#8211; “The Spoils of War” <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959#7m56s" target="_blank">[EN Video Link]</a> <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1151377721039957577#7m56s" target="_blank">[NL Video Link]</a><br />
</strong></p>
<p><em>And fight them on<br />
Until there is no more<br />
Tumult or oppression,<br />
And there prevails<br />
Justice and faith in Allah<br />
Altogether and everywhere;<br />
But if they cease, verily Allah<br />
Doth see all that they do.</em></p>
<p><strong>My comment:</strong> Again, remember Surah 8 refers to the The Battle of Badr a lot. I think it is talking about the battle and how to continue fighting. If you’re already at war, why wouldn’t you fight until there is no more opposition? It says in the last two lines as well, if they give up, respect that. The verse after that talk about if they don’t what to do, which isn’t that interesting.</p>
<p>Overall, the movie brings up the problem of radical Islam and how the West is caving into it. At least we have a film to campaign against it, but maybe we will have a more scholarly film out later now that we have people waking up to the threat of radical Islam.</p>
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